banner http://www.handymanwire.com/Ad
banner


General Discussion >> Heating and Air Conditioning

Pages: 1
smaggard
newbie


Reged: 02/28/10
Posts: 2
Loc: Norfolk, VA
Erie Pop Top Zone Valve Question
      #869502 - 02/28/10 08:00 AM

Hi,

I have a gas hot water boiler system with 2 zones. Zone 1 goes to radiators throughout the house and Zone 2 is for a den with baseboard heaters.

Zone 2 stopped working and I have began troubleshooting and had some questions. First I am not a HVAC specialist, but can use a meter and feel comfortable trying to at least diagnose the issue.

What I have been able to determine is that I believe the valve is opening. If the thermostat is on for Zone 2, the manual lever is loose and can not engage the motor. When it's off I can use the lever to engage the motor (plus if Zone 1 is on and Zone 2 thermostat is on hot water gets to the baseboards fine). What seems to not be happening is the trigger portion that powers the pump and fires the burners. It appears this valve has a switch built in for this purpose. Zone 1 has a similar valve but the terminals are on the outisde, so it appears the "ES" terminals are for triggering the pump an/or burner. However Zone 2 has wires coming out of the side so perhaps the terminals are on the inside, or it's just hard wired inside the case, but it has 2 red wires coming out which I am assuming are the same "ES" terminals just inside the pop top box.

On Zone 1 (the working one) these 2 red "ES" wires are 24 volts when thermostat is OFF, and when it switches on those 2 red wires drop to almost zero I believe.

Having not removed the cover of the zone 2 valve yet I have not yet metered those. Am I on the right track for tracing the problem? Is the switch portion replaceable or does the entire unit need to be replaced?

It looks like the Zone 1 valve is a "general close off" and Zone 2 is a "high close off". The part number of the Zone 2 valve that is causing the problem is VT2343G13Ao2AoF.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. I hope I have put enough information here to make sense of the problem.
Thanks!
Scott


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
HeatPro
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 07/30/04
Posts: 23546
Loc: South New Jersey
Re: Erie Pop Top Zone Valve Question [Re: smaggard]
      #869664 - 03/01/10 02:12 PM

You are on the right track. When the end switch (ES) closes, the circuit is completed to power the pump/ignition relay, so the voltage drops from 24 to zero.

--------------------
Friends tell people how to live past 60.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
smaggard
newbie


Reged: 02/28/10
Posts: 2
Loc: Norfolk, VA
Re: Erie Pop Top Zone Valve Question [Re: HeatPro]
      #869686 - 03/01/10 03:01 PM

Thank you for the reply! Today I was able to remove the cover from the one causing the problem and the ES terminals have power (25.2V) and when the thermostat engages and the valve opens the voltage dips by maybe 1-2 V for a second but then steadies back out at 25V. It doesn't appear that the switch/relay part is separate from the actuator assembly like the motor may be, so is it safe to assume that I need the whole unit (not the valve but just the "pop top")?

Thanks again for you quick reply!

Scott

Quote:

You are on the right track. When the end switch (ES) closes, the circuit is completed to power the pump/ignition relay, so the voltage drops from 24 to zero.




Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
HeatPro
Carpal Tunnel


Reged: 07/30/04
Posts: 23546
Loc: South New Jersey
Re: Erie Pop Top Zone Valve Question [Re: smaggard]
      #869695 - 03/01/10 04:28 PM

The end switch isn't generally available as a separate item, so the entire top is required. It seems the switch is bad. You can double-check that by jumping both wires attached to the red wires together, simulating the closing of the contacts of the end switch, which should activate the boiler burner/circulator relay.

--------------------
Friends tell people how to live past 60.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Pages: 1



Extra information
0 registered and 3 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  FranS, Ernie 

Print Topic

Forum Permissions
      You cannot start new topics
      You cannot reply to topics
      HTML is disabled
      UBBCode is enabled

Rating:
Topic views: 386

Rate this topic

Jump to

Contact Us Handyman Wire

Powered by UBB.threads™ 6.5.5


Experts | Email Us | Disclaimer | HandymanWire home
Articles | We welcome your feedback. | Privacy
http://www.handymanwire.com
Handyman Wire
your resource for advice on home improvement and repairs.
Copyright ©2010, Handyman USA LLC.
All rights reserved.