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Scholastica
``Karen Kandoo``


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Attaching wood to metal - tiny pieces
      #824359 - 06/19/09 07:36 PM

I'm trying to make a box using 1/4" wood. I can't find screws small enough not to penetrate my wood for when I attach the hinges. On the "box" I was able to screw the hinges on. (through the edges) But to attach the lid, all the screws I see are 1/4" which is too big. SO...I scuffed up the metal pieces and used some Titebond II. Think this will hold? If you have any alternatives, I'd appreciate hearing them. I don't have any epoxy. This is a cigar-type box. Nothing fancy. Just to hold note cards. So it won't be used much. I just don't want to give it to anyone and have the top come off.

And the beat goes on...

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DonkeyDave



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Re: Attaching wood to metal - tiny pieces [Re: Scholastica]
      #824364 - 06/19/09 08:46 PM

Would it be possible to glue a narrow strip of wood across one edge of the under side of the lid, sandwiching the hinges between the lid and the strip?

Uh Oh. I said 'sandwich'. Here comes Dennis!

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morrisdancer
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Re: Attaching wood to metal - tiny pieces [Re: DonkeyDave]
      #824388 - 06/19/09 10:16 PM

OK, its late, I had 2 beers, Dave's post didn't make a lot of sense to me (2 beers!) but I DO remember reading you were looking for tiny screws. Think Craft/Hobby Store and think Jewelry section. Also think glasses-repair kits. Teeny tiny screws tend to live in those places.

Liz

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brooksnb
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Re: Attaching wood to metal - tiny pieces [Re: Scholastica]
      #824406 - 06/20/09 05:31 AM

Hobby ./ craft and RC hobby shops will have what you need.

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Scholastica
``Karen Kandoo``


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Re: Attaching wood to metal - tiny pieces [Re: brooksnb]
      #824429 - 06/20/09 06:58 AM

I've been browzing all kinds of craft and hardware stores to no avail.

Small Box Hardware
Miniatures
Hardware Resource
Rocklers

The smallest screws I've seen are still 1/4". I was thinking of using the eyeglass screws but think the heads on them are too small to fit the hinges. Besides...aren't they flat-tipped screws? They wouldn't hold would they? I was looking at a jewelry box I have. That has a lid (4 side) though. I wanted a cigar type box. Simple - you know!

RC Hobby Shops ? Roman Catholic? How appropriate that would be!! I'm making this for my priest!!!

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Edited by Scholastica (06/20/09 07:05 AM)


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Re: Attaching wood to metal - tiny pieces [Re: Scholastica]
      #824433 - 06/20/09 07:15 AM

Being often ``weight ``of a box top...
caused ``me`` some little problems...
And I didn't want to get carried away with
trick hardware or CHAINS..to stop the hinged tops
on small ``delicate boxes
I tried using a small ``piano hinge``
on a heavy 1/4" piece of cocobolo that I
crafted in to a`` flute case``....
I pre-dillled the holes for
```the tiny little brass screws`` and
I am very pleased
on how well it has ``held up``...
One nice thing is I bought a long length of
the small brass piano type hinge and ..cut it
to make several more lengths and...used it on
a few more similar ```little utility boxes``
If we had a better idea
(`picture` hint ))of where you are planning
to hinge the top ?..and if you could use a stop
or chain or..to prevent`` pull out``
`````of the little hinge screws `` it might help
`` others ``to help you more``
I'm slow...
But Good and Slow
````when I get my hands
on something``

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Scholastica
``Karen Kandoo``


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Re: Attaching wood to metal - tiny pieces [Re: Ernie]
      #824435 - 06/20/09 07:21 AM

Quote:

Being often ``weight ``of a box top...
caused I tried using a small ``piano hinge``
on a heavy 1/4" piece of cocobolo




I saw those but because the screws are 1/4" and my wood is 1/4" I thought the screws would penetrate.

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Scholastica
``Karen Kandoo``


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Re: Attaching wood to metal - tiny pieces [Re: DonkeyDave]
      #824450 - 06/20/09 08:42 AM

Quote:

Would it be possible to glue a narrow strip of wood across one edge of the under side of the lid, sandwiching the hinges between the lid and the strip?




WHAT A RIOT!!! Scholastica obsesses again!!! Actually, I did "sandwich" the hinges ...but not with a long strip. I used a shaving from my cuttings and cut it to the size of the hinge. I was hoping the glue would go between the holes and to the piece of wood. I used some painters tape to protect the lower "hinge" parts. Then clamped. It SEEMS to have worked!!! It's a miracle!!! AND I DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A DRINK!!! (unless water counts!)

Now I'm putting a couple of appliques I found at a lumber store IN MANHATTAN!!! There's a small store on 3rd Avenue near 37th - NOT the area one would expect to find one. Up in their attic I remembered I'd found some appliques for my thingee I made a while ago. The packages have almost an 1" of dust on them. I joked with the owner telling him I bet he never thought he'd sell these! I think it's a lumber store for local contractors. Third avenue is NOT the place to have to load trucks or carry lumber (although I once did ).

Pictures to follow. Can you believe?! I didn't wait another year or two to make something! It's a bloody miracle!!!

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brooksnb
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Re: Attaching wood to metal - tiny pieces [Re: Scholastica]
      #824454 - 06/20/09 08:57 AM

Quote:

I saw those but because the screws are 1/4" and my wood is 1/4" I thought the screws would penetrate.





You are forgetting to take into consideration the hinge thickness...even if it is 1/16th it will work out fine for you.

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Scholastica
``Karen Kandoo``


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Re: Attaching wood to metal - tiny pieces [Re: brooksnb]
      #824457 - 06/20/09 09:21 AM

At one of those stores I saw a mixed box of them. That might be good for me. I wanted this for a Father's Day gift. Do any of you LIVE near these kind of stores What a life!! Of course, my closets would be filled with dream pieces and tools! I may live on bread and water - but tools are a must have! Even if they don't get used???

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